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August 14, 2008

Georgia

Filed under: Politics — mlah @ 10:56 am

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we can’t really do much.

we can throw all of the international sanctions at them we want, or can. fact is, russia makes a ton of cash on the market selling oil. they no longer really need us. capitalism is finally starting to make russia rich. well, richer. they’re just starting to get access to the natural assets they have.

but long story short, we can’t force them out of georgia. saakashvili got used by the russians. they worked him into a corner and he played right into their hands.

russia is back.

now. the long term ramifications? foreign polic is more important than ever. and the really reall really important thing right now comes from a legal principal called tort.

ossetia is inside georgia. it is ostensibly trying to break away. tring to become independant of georgia. but it is not. russia is bucking the international community and saying it is. that georgia invaded an independant country, and they are saving ossetia from georgian adventurism.

but it is a pretty clearly establisdhed fact that ossetia is a district inside of georgia.

so the legal point involving tort? ask yourself, if the US moves troops from georgia to miami because there are riots, does cuba have the right to intervene to protect cubans in miami? russia is making that an predefined yes. they are doing it right now.

now you may think, pshaw, as if we would let them.

what happens when the mexican separatist movement for a free “aztlan” (texas, new mexico, arizona, california, nevada and more) starts rioting, and the ever shrinking US military is confronted with a strong mexican military in san diego?

russia is giving them the right to intervene right now.

5 Comments »

  1. reminds me of the Hopi Indian reservation in Arizona, which was entirely contained within the Navajo reservation. This situation was resolved in relative peaceful ways I don’t think either of the 3 nations involved are willing to go to the Peace table. sasvagemod99

    Comment by savagemod99 — August 14, 2008 @ 1:06 pm

  2. I’ve been considering this for a few days now. The Russians were very clear to us that we should not interfere in Kosovo, which was legally only a province of Serbia (whereas the other now-independent parts of the former Yugoslavia were legally republics in their own right). Do you remember the race for the airport when we intervened and made it a UN protectorate? Ever since, the Russians repeatedly warned us not to allow independence. They were extremely pissed at us when we recognized an independent Kosovo earlier this year. And that, I am sad to say, established the precedent for “intervention” and political dismantling of a country on behalf of an “oppressed” minority group.

    But the Russians were not only pissed about Kosovo. They still have some hard feelings about how we in the West — both the U.S. and Europe — left them hanging back in 1991. Indeed, our President dispatched his buddy to Russia to advise Boris on how to achieve “shock therapy” transformation to a capitalist system. Said academician has now changed his tune and is a loud advocate for assistance, but back then he, as our de facto representative, pushed the economic upheaval that Russia embarked upon following the end of the USSR. Now, Russia is economically independent (but the economy is not necessarily sound); Russia holds the cajones of Europe through its massive energy exports. For several years now we have been working with Georgia to develop access to the Caspian oil resources through a non-Russian controlled venue. Russia reportedly bombed hell out of the pipeline, and has occupied the port city at which the pipeline terminates.

    You don’t think the Russians are sending us a little message now, do you?

    And no, I am not in any way saying it was because of the U.S. that Russia was compelled to do this. Just laying out my understanding of the Russian actions given their POV.

    By the way, this has far-reaching implications for foreign policy, as you suggest Mlah. Just as we have been proved incapable of doing anything to stop the annexation of much of Georgia to the Russian empire — leaving a shell of a country which has no economic prospects other than to once again be a satellite of Moscow — our security guarantees to Taiwan have now been thrown into severe doubt.

    China is just waiting for the Olympics to be done. Greater China demands the return of Taiwan to the fold. The DPP may just play the role of Saakashvili in the Chinese version of this tale. And we will stand by, bluster and rage, and in the end prove just as unable — and unwilling — to do anything to save Taiwan.

    Comment by yup — August 14, 2008 @ 4:46 pm

  3. Judas Priest, the Russkies are getting belligerent. Their invasion on Georgia prompted Poland to agree to the ABM defense program. Now Russia says “Poland, by deploying (the system) is exposing itself to a strike — 100 percent” — that statement by Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn.

    I think the Russians have declared Cold War II.

    But I’m not sure the U.S. is up to its commitments to its allies. No blood for {oil, democracy, allies, ideals, money, whatever} is the refrain of our liberal ‘patriots’, after all. We’re gonna end up leaving everyone who counts on us, from the Iraqi people who are cooperating with us to Georgia, Poland and Taiwan, hanging in the breeze. And thereby encouraging exactly this sort of behavior from Russia and China.

    After all, ‘diplomacy’ only encompasses words these days. But hey, give peace a chance, right?

    http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080815/ap_on_re_eu/russia_us_missile_defense

    Comment by yup — August 15, 2008 @ 8:20 am

  4. Say, aren’t those ‘Girls of the IDF’ in the picture??

    Comment by yup — August 17, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

  5. most likely. i like them all the same yup.

    Comment by mlah — August 20, 2008 @ 1:37 am

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