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December 15, 2005

Tookie

Filed under: Politics — mlah @ 10:21 pm

Passion of the Christ

i’ve been thinking about tookie williams recently.

with his moving on and all.

founder of the crips. covicted of 4 murders. sentenced to death. executed after some 24 years in jail.

should he have been executed?

this is the first time i’ve said this. and some of you who know me, and have debated me on the issue of capital punichment are going to be shocked.

i don’t really support the death penalty anymore.

i used to be a huge advocate. it is specifically provided for in the constitution. and contrary to what foreigners, and local liberals say, the constitution is not a living document. it was written, and IS. it is not a subject for reinterpretation.

reinterpretation just means lawyers can disregard the constitution.they can make ther law whatever they want at the moment. they should be shot. did i just contradict myself? well, i might be pursuaded to make exceptions for the legal practitioners.

know what made me anti death penalty?

mel gibson.

yeah, i watched the passion of the christ with madame butterfly, and was crushed by the ‘passion’ and then the execution. chirst was sentenced to death.

i’m not so fond of the death sentence anymore.

it was a cold day in hell. a good friend of mine who seldomly reads here anymore, was doubting his own anti death penalty stance at the same time. he was watching the news regarding one of the many child abduction / rape / murder stories (5 year old) that seem all too common on the news. and think back to the time when passion was out. there were three or four rather close together. and he was beginning to doubt his own absolute oppostion.

he was beginning to understand the drive to punish and deter. actually beginning to believe in the possibility that detterence might have an effect.

hell was freezing over.

so come to tookie.

he totally deserved the chair. believing the jury. and our society is secular, so my religious convictions shouldn’t make the choice for me, but i just keep seeing that cross turn over in my head………

4 Comments »

  1. Damn Mlah, I finally totally agree with you… LOL

    Comment by Craig — December 16, 2005 @ 1:53 am

  2. This is a perfect time to look at our extended beliefs. People respond to consistency, so do we believe that there is a right or wrong based outside ourselves, read God, or do we get to reinterpret right and wrong because it is a “living” concept? Thank you Mlah, it reminds me of my dog. I don’t reinterpret dog poop on my kitchen floor as good and so confuse my dog as to the consequences of her actions nor is litigation an option. This isn’t as simple as it seems. I am speaking of more than just the death penalty. We have a society that refuses to enforce what it says it believes in. Years of such behavior undermine the very concepts of law and justice. Nobody believes in consequences and that might be a great topic in itself, but this is your blog not mine.

    Comment by Jason — December 17, 2005 @ 7:56 am

  3. The death penalty is not my favorite part of our legal system. I am always afraid that some innocent person may slip through the cracks and get the needle. However, I do support its use for people that have been found to be undeniably guilty of heinous crimes such as murder, rape, child molestation, etc.

    People that commit these crimes have not only harmed the victims and the victims families, but have denied our society access to the potential greatness that may have been in the victims. They have stolen away valuable resources from our society.

    If the death penalty were done away with, they would continue to steal from and harm society. This would be the resources needed to clothe and feed them. Those resources would be better spent on rehablilitating individuals that can be helped and turned into productive citizens.

    Tookie was undenialby guilty of cold-blooded and calculated murder. A jury of his “peers” and a California judge determined that the death penalty was the appropriate punishment. It is a shame that it took 24 years to send him to meet his maker. How many other people could have been helped with the money wasted on him over that time?

    Comment by RojoXia — December 18, 2005 @ 9:24 am

  4. I wish we had the death penalty. I would use it further beyond what are considered “capital” offenses. I would use it for chronic voilent dangerous re-offenders with no hope of rehabilitation. I read that in the U.S. it costs around $40,000 a year to house and feed a prisoner. I’m not 100% on what it was but I remember reading that and being disgusted. In Canada you have to earn less than $10,000 a year to be considered poor. That is our poverty line. I think it’s actually lower than that. Anyways. Obviously people whose crimes were not violent or who are not likely to re-offend shouldn’t be executed. I’m talking about the people that supermax prisons were made for. For each of those super violent offenders you execute you could keep an honest poor family fed, clothed and housed. We treat criminals better than our working poor. I get angered thinking that we spend more on prisoners than on people who, albeit poor as dirt, have not resorted to crime.

    Comment by Sean — December 18, 2005 @ 11:50 pm

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