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November 15, 2005

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Filed under: Politics — mlah @ 11:08 pm

so people disagree with me. some absolutely refuse to believe/admit that there is a difference between not being able to afford something and being denied access to something.

more than 2.

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unwittingly, i think, some have tried to change the topic from doublespeak to whether or not socialized medicine is cheaper than non-socialized medicine.

it is not.

now be carefull gussie boy. i know you are ready to fawn at the feet of your master, and then run to the new york enquirer for your latest truth. as you will no doubt be instructed. but the weekly new york world news times does not hold water. so whatever it says about socialized medicine being able to alleviate high bills at hospital emergency rooms. realize first that emergency rooms being forced to accept all patients IS socialized medicine.

so when you decry it’s high cost. you reinforce my point.

it is easiest to go to the record. the real record.

look at the fine hospitals of the former soviet union. what’s that? they were fine? at what COST. the soviet union went bankrupt because of it’s plethora of inefficient social programs.

look around the globe at socialized medicine. everywhere it is, people go elsewhere for medical care, if they can.

and yes gussie gus. your humble author has sat in a hospital offering socialized medicine. chock full of over qualified doctors, chock full of nurses and orderlies.

and getting anything done took FOREVER!

socialized medicine SUCKS. and i’m speaking from experience.

and further, read a little something on health care in india

anyone know if they have socialized medicine? i have a guess……..

5 Comments »

  1. “whether or not socialized medicine is cheaper than non-socialized medicine.
    it is not.”
    Uh huh, and what are you basing that statement on?
    According to a 2000 WHO study, you are talking out of your arse (as usual):
    http://www.who.int/whr/2000/en/whr00_en.pdf
    “These publicly funded systems spend significantly less on health care both as a percentage of their GDP and per capita and enjoy superior population based health care outcomes than those with privately funded systems,” as Wikipedia describes the study in the first of these 2 very interesting articles:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems_compared
    All of the points you and I came up with are represented here, as well as many we didn’t. Good reads for both sides, no easy solutions.

    Anyways, you bring up the USSR imploding under the weight of all its social programs. Okay. But what of all the currently existing countries that are not imploding? The US didn’t start nationalized healthcare like most industrialized countries in the 1960’s because we were busy pumping so much money into the Cold War. You resent paying taxes that go to feed poor people and I resent paying taxes that go to the war machine. I resent paying for *your* freaking VA care, ya parasite! (I don’t really, but I could!) The military is the biggest social program imaginable. Think about it.

    If you were suddenly given the power to make this decision, would you really make it so everyone not insured would have to pay for every penny of their healthcare? Isn’t our infant/mother mortality rate low enough for a 1st world country? Pregnancy complications are pretty common. People would be dying in the streets, like in Charles Dickens’ London (read/watch “Oliver Twist” sometime). Life would become even cheaper and more violent for everyone… until we lived in a police state. If we didn’t want so many poor black folks here, we really shouldn’t have brought their ancestors here as slaves, is what it ultimately comes down to. We are paying for the sins of the fathers (of our country) and we can’t avoid the responsibilites of that destiny, so you might as well get used to it.

    Comment by f-in_cheney — November 16, 2005 @ 7:07 am

  2. I hate when people confuse “rights” and “freedoms.”

    Some things that we are free to do, we do not necessarily have a right to do.

    For example, marriage is a freedom, not a right. No one is entitled to a spouse. Driver’s license is a freedom, not a right. No one is entitled to be allowed to drive.

    And so on…

    Comment by Citizen Grim — November 16, 2005 @ 7:34 am

  3. Great post, Mlah!
    Many are demanding socialized medicine the US now.
    It will be another nail in our coffin as a country…

    Comment by jimmyb — November 16, 2005 @ 10:14 am

  4. hey, f-in cheney, be careful with your links. 3 is the magic number i beleive. at three hyperlinks, mt thinks your comment is spam, and round files it. watch your links and you’ll get posted more reliably.

    Comment by mlah — November 18, 2005 @ 5:19 pm

  5. I’m a part of a socialized medicine system and it seems to work, but the whole topic is boring. Tell me a drinking story.

    Comment by Mark — November 19, 2005 @ 7:58 am

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