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		<title>by: Naibed</title>
		<link>http://www.mlah.us/2005/04/24/taqqiya/#comment-46819</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bruce Ramsey  : « I need to have Quranic and Hadithic proof before..[...]..

Et bien, Bruce, qu'est-ce que vous attendez pour vous sortir les doigts du cul et les chercher vous-męme, ces preuves ?</description>
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<p>Et bien, Bruce, qu&#8217;est-ce que vous attendez pour vous sortir les doigts du cul et les chercher vous-męme, ces preuves ?
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		<title>by: Bruce Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://www.mlah.us/2005/04/24/taqqiya/#comment-46633</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 03:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I need to have Quranic and Hadithic proof before I'll believe Muslims can lie to save themselves from infidels.  IF there ARE certain scriptures for this to come about, it makes one wonder about the promice of virgins their supposed to get IF killed by infidels in Jihad.</description>
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		<title>by: Abu Prideaux</title>
		<link>http://www.mlah.us/2005/04/24/taqqiya/#comment-43267</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>At long last, Richard wins the prize for getting to the bottom line first. Islam is inimical with democratic ideals, the US Constitution, and the fundamental values and core (Judeo - Christian) principles that have gotten us where we are. He is also correct, however sadly, that the ACLU, with the support of the blind and the malicious, are taking us somewhere we should never go. Unfortunately those zealots are so blinded by their hatred of the standards they assail that they cannot recognize that ultimately their defense of Islam is self defeating. Can you imagine a lawyer for the ACLU in Mecca opposing Mohammed on the grounds of religious liberty against his destruction of the idols there; or his slaughter of the Jews in Medina? Either would have been a short cut to death.
Richard is also correct with respect to women. Where do the Islamofascists come from? They are raised by islam's greatest resource, the imprisoned women who produce the raw materials - the youth - which are fashioned into hate machines by the fanatical curriculum of the madrassahs. There is only one way out, and that is to consign islam to the same museum of failed, murderous ideology as nazism, imperialism, communism, fascism, etc, etc. They demand our 'respect' for a religion which has declared war on us, produces nothing, enslaves 50% of its population, legitimizes and sanctions murder, plunder, rape, duplicity (taqqiya) and mass oppression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At long last, Richard wins the prize for getting to the bottom line first. Islam is inimical with democratic ideals, the US Constitution, and the fundamental values and core (Judeo - Christian) principles that have gotten us where we are. He is also correct, however sadly, that the ACLU, with the support of the blind and the malicious, are taking us somewhere we should never go. Unfortunately those zealots are so blinded by their hatred of the standards they assail that they cannot recognize that ultimately their defense of Islam is self defeating. Can you imagine a lawyer for the ACLU in Mecca opposing Mohammed on the grounds of religious liberty against his destruction of the idols there; or his slaughter of the Jews in Medina? Either would have been a short cut to death.<br />
Richard is also correct with respect to women. Where do the Islamofascists come from? They are raised by islam&#8217;s greatest resource, the imprisoned women who produce the raw materials - the youth - which are fashioned into hate machines by the fanatical curriculum of the madrassahs. There is only one way out, and that is to consign islam to the same museum of failed, murderous ideology as nazism, imperialism, communism, fascism, etc, etc. They demand our &#8216;respect&#8217; for a religion which has declared war on us, produces nothing, enslaves 50% of its population, legitimizes and sanctions murder, plunder, rape, duplicity (taqqiya) and mass oppression.
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		<title>by: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.mlah.us/2005/04/24/taqqiya/#comment-34901</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've read all these comments, but one fact remains.  It is imperative that we continue to kill muslims.  As many as we can.  There are approx. 1.2 billion of the slimy, quran reading, Jew and Christian hating (any religion other than islam), murderers out there just waiting for their chance at the 72 virgins and their choice of pre-pubescent boys to rape in paradise.  

These idiots have been brainwashed from birth to believe the garbage in that most evil of documents - the unholy quran.  Thinking we can discuss the situation with them and come to a resolution suitable to both sides is plain silly.  Islam is another name for sociopath.

I don't give two hoots in hell about how they treat their women.  Their women are just as brainwashed from birth as the men so there is no hope for them either.  And muslim children only differ in that they can't carry as much explosive when they blow themselves up to kill non muslims.

We should deport all muslims from these United States yesterday.  Islam can never be reformed because nearly every page of the unholy quran is replete with direct orders to kill non muslims.

As a Christian I have watched as my country - declared a Christian nation by the 1898 Supreme court - has taken away my right to place the 10 commandments for public viewing.  At the same time the ACLU sicko's fight to force me to listen to the call to "sniff butt" 5 times a day.

Enough is enough.   Muslims - of any origin - don't belong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read all these comments, but one fact remains.  It is imperative that we continue to kill muslims.  As many as we can.  There are approx. 1.2 billion of the slimy, quran reading, Jew and Christian hating (any religion other than islam), murderers out there just waiting for their chance at the 72 virgins and their choice of pre-pubescent boys to rape in paradise.  </p>
<p>These idiots have been brainwashed from birth to believe the garbage in that most evil of documents - the unholy quran.  Thinking we can discuss the situation with them and come to a resolution suitable to both sides is plain silly.  Islam is another name for sociopath.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give two hoots in hell about how they treat their women.  Their women are just as brainwashed from birth as the men so there is no hope for them either.  And muslim children only differ in that they can&#8217;t carry as much explosive when they blow themselves up to kill non muslims.</p>
<p>We should deport all muslims from these United States yesterday.  Islam can never be reformed because nearly every page of the unholy quran is replete with direct orders to kill non muslims.</p>
<p>As a Christian I have watched as my country - declared a Christian nation by the 1898 Supreme court - has taken away my right to place the 10 commandments for public viewing.  At the same time the ACLU sicko&#8217;s fight to force me to listen to the call to &#8220;sniff butt&#8221; 5 times a day.</p>
<p>Enough is enough.   Muslims - of any origin - don&#8217;t belong here.
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		<title>by: CMHOzStyle</title>
		<link>http://www.mlah.us/2005/04/24/taqqiya/#comment-17267</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great Discussion, 

f-in_cheney Says: 
April 27th, 2005 at 3:08 am 

&#62;"Oh, did Iraq attack us and I completely missed it? It sure as hell ain’t a &#62;defensive war. Get off it, Yup. As if you give a damn what the UN says…"

Hey All, 

 F-in cheney, 
I guess you missed the whole Kuwait invasion, the firing of missiles at Israel and the whole gassing of Kurds thing! Nothing too offensive about any of that was there, I seem to recall Israelies holding out in the basements praying the skud missiles didn't have gas or biological warheads, Oh but then Iraq didn't have any weapons of mass destruction, 
despite Saddam's continual threats to use them. Well I guess they must have used all their chemical biological weapons gassing the kurds, or maybe the fact that everytime the UN inspectors tried to access a location, the Iraqis made them wait (hours, day and months) until all evidence was removed before they allowed them to inspect, and then we let them truck it all out to Syria, and surprise suprise, we didn't find any later, of course the biological weapons scientists who risked their lives to get the information on locations out to the UN, aren't reliable sources.  And how come everything the UN says means nothing when it supports the war, but means everything when it's in favour of the other argument?

I think the fact that America is prepared to send it's men and women into danger to defend communities in danger, even when the community is in danger from it's own government or people, proves the American ideal of upholding human rights, freedom of speech, democracy and the right to live in safety.  To those who believe war and violence is never necessary to procure that freedom, clearly they are not strong students of history.  If we accept that the western worlds democratic policies, human rights breakthroughs, and gender, religious and ethnic rights advances are worth protecting and although far from perfect are enormously better than a fascist, extremist dictatorship, as in North Korea for example, then it's vital we understand the truth of how our countries came to be in those positions.  As an Australian, I am forever grateful, that Americans deemed my future safety important enough to come to my defence.  Without that defence Australia would now be the largest Island in Japan. Considering the hideous atrocities the Japanese inflicted on their captives, the possible horrors of their occupation of Australia is almost too horrible to imagine.  Almost. because the true value of fighting for what is right is the only thing that prevented it then, and will prevent it now.

&#62;"Tell me this, Yup, how many innocent people’s lives are allowed to be &#62;turned upside down– JUST IN CASE– "

I think there'd be about 3000 people + families and friends who would have been only too happy to have been inconvenienced, if it had prevented 9:11.  How many times do you think these inconvenient measures might have saved that many and more since.  Might be hard to put a value on effective prevention, if it does it's job and their are no death figures to measure.  So should you consider the lack of deaths through terrorism in America since then a huge success? I think maybe you do.


&#62;before you say there’s a problem? &#62;If only 5%, that’s okay. 15%, &#62;getting warm! 30 percent, hmm, lemme &#62;think about it. 60% , it’s for the &#62;Homeland! 90%, I’m not an A-rab, what &#62;do I care? I’m just talking &#62;hypothetically. Care to read the 14th &#62;Amendment to the Constitution &#62;again: “Section 1. (""All persons born or &#62;naturalized in the United &#62;States, and subject to the jurisdiction &#62;thereof,""" ""are citizens of the &#62;United States and of the state wherein &#62;they reside. No state shall make &#62;or enforce any law which shall abridge &#62;the privileges or immunities of &#62;citizens of the United States; nor shall any &#62;state deprive any person of &#62;life, liberty, or property, without due process &#62;of law;( """"nor deny to &#62;any person within its jurisdiction the equal &#62;protection of the laws.”""")

Your point here is excellent, All American citizens who are subject to it's jurisdiction, of course Islamic fundamentalists proclaim that they are only required to remain under the juridiction of Islam and Shariah law, whether they are citizens or not.  So how do you deal with people, who use America's rights, laws and priveleges to protect themselves on the one hand, but feel justifed to break those laws, lie (taqqiya) and plan the implementation of Islamic states by education, coercion or threat of death,
and who believe they are divinely justified to attack and kill anyone who insults their prophet, eg: the furor over the cartoons of Mohammed in Denmark. So tell me how do you equally apply the law to protect American citizens when this is the current reality in which the citizens live, they afford their own attackers maximum human rights, while bearing the burden of their violent, ideological opposition, which is designed to destroy and replace the very rights and society that Americans have fought and died to put into place.  When does America get the credit for it's extreme tolerance, enormous patience and sacrifice to try and give others in the
 world the same precious gifts of freedom.  Oh and don't try and fly that oil argument, because just a tiny amount of research will show, that the bulk of the oil reserves in Iraq are already the property of France and Russia.  

Oh and on the point of Japanese internment in the second world war, how can anyone deny the fact that Japan did have sleeper cell agents in America, when they have since admitted it.  So how stupid was it really to put those related to the enemy in protective custody.  It protected the Japanese from Americans as much as Americans from the Interned Japanese.  Seriously how successful do you thinka  country could be if you let the possible enemy wander around freely while trying to fight them, as was the case with the Japanese &#38;Germans in England and Australia, it doesn't make any logical sense, to just cross your fingers and hope that all those in your country with ties to the enemy, will just sit on their hands, and not pick up the phone to let their family and friends back home know if they were going to be attacked, it's human nature. And that 's just the regular citizen, not even the real spies among them.

Actually what happens is you have to put everyone in the country under tighter security, and try and be all politically correct about not singling out the most likely suspects.  You know it used to be common sense that people who declared they were going to take over your country and destroy your political system, through violence, were considered bad, and  called treasonous.  Now they are just expressing their freedom of speech and religion... When is enough enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Discussion, </p>
<p>f-in_cheney Says:<br />
April 27th, 2005 at 3:08 am </p>
<p>&gt;&#8221;Oh, did Iraq attack us and I completely missed it? It sure as hell ain’t a &gt;defensive war. Get off it, Yup. As if you give a damn what the UN says…&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey All, </p>
<p> F-in cheney,<br />
I guess you missed the whole Kuwait invasion, the firing of missiles at Israel and the whole gassing of Kurds thing! Nothing too offensive about any of that was there, I seem to recall Israelies holding out in the basements praying the skud missiles didn&#8217;t have gas or biological warheads, Oh but then Iraq didn&#8217;t have any weapons of mass destruction,<br />
despite Saddam&#8217;s continual threats to use them. Well I guess they must have used all their chemical biological weapons gassing the kurds, or maybe the fact that everytime the UN inspectors tried to access a location, the Iraqis made them wait (hours, day and months) until all evidence was removed before they allowed them to inspect, and then we let them truck it all out to Syria, and surprise suprise, we didn&#8217;t find any later, of course the biological weapons scientists who risked their lives to get the information on locations out to the UN, aren&#8217;t reliable sources.  And how come everything the UN says means nothing when it supports the war, but means everything when it&#8217;s in favour of the other argument?</p>
<p>I think the fact that America is prepared to send it&#8217;s men and women into danger to defend communities in danger, even when the community is in danger from it&#8217;s own government or people, proves the American ideal of upholding human rights, freedom of speech, democracy and the right to live in safety.  To those who believe war and violence is never necessary to procure that freedom, clearly they are not strong students of history.  If we accept that the western worlds democratic policies, human rights breakthroughs, and gender, religious and ethnic rights advances are worth protecting and although far from perfect are enormously better than a fascist, extremist dictatorship, as in North Korea for example, then it&#8217;s vital we understand the truth of how our countries came to be in those positions.  As an Australian, I am forever grateful, that Americans deemed my future safety important enough to come to my defence.  Without that defence Australia would now be the largest Island in Japan. Considering the hideous atrocities the Japanese inflicted on their captives, the possible horrors of their occupation of Australia is almost too horrible to imagine.  Almost. because the true value of fighting for what is right is the only thing that prevented it then, and will prevent it now.</p>
<p>&gt;&#8221;Tell me this, Yup, how many innocent people’s lives are allowed to be &gt;turned upside down– JUST IN CASE– &#8221;</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;d be about 3000 people + families and friends who would have been only too happy to have been inconvenienced, if it had prevented 9:11.  How many times do you think these inconvenient measures might have saved that many and more since.  Might be hard to put a value on effective prevention, if it does it&#8217;s job and their are no death figures to measure.  So should you consider the lack of deaths through terrorism in America since then a huge success? I think maybe you do.</p>
<p>&gt;before you say there’s a problem? &gt;If only 5%, that’s okay. 15%, &gt;getting warm! 30 percent, hmm, lemme &gt;think about it. 60% , it’s for the &gt;Homeland! 90%, I’m not an A-rab, what &gt;do I care? I’m just talking &gt;hypothetically. Care to read the 14th &gt;Amendment to the Constitution &gt;again: “Section 1. (&#8221;"All persons born or &gt;naturalized in the United &gt;States, and subject to the jurisdiction &gt;thereof,&#8221;"&#8221; &#8220;&#8221;are citizens of the &gt;United States and of the state wherein &gt;they reside. No state shall make &gt;or enforce any law which shall abridge &gt;the privileges or immunities of &gt;citizens of the United States; nor shall any &gt;state deprive any person of &gt;life, liberty, or property, without due process &gt;of law;( &#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;nor deny to &gt;any person within its jurisdiction the equal &gt;protection of the laws.”&#8221;"&#8221;)</p>
<p>Your point here is excellent, All American citizens who are subject to it&#8217;s jurisdiction, of course Islamic fundamentalists proclaim that they are only required to remain under the juridiction of Islam and Shariah law, whether they are citizens or not.  So how do you deal with people, who use America&#8217;s rights, laws and priveleges to protect themselves on the one hand, but feel justifed to break those laws, lie (taqqiya) and plan the implementation of Islamic states by education, coercion or threat of death,<br />
and who believe they are divinely justified to attack and kill anyone who insults their prophet, eg: the furor over the cartoons of Mohammed in Denmark. So tell me how do you equally apply the law to protect American citizens when this is the current reality in which the citizens live, they afford their own attackers maximum human rights, while bearing the burden of their violent, ideological opposition, which is designed to destroy and replace the very rights and society that Americans have fought and died to put into place.  When does America get the credit for it&#8217;s extreme tolerance, enormous patience and sacrifice to try and give others in the<br />
 world the same precious gifts of freedom.  Oh and don&#8217;t try and fly that oil argument, because just a tiny amount of research will show, that the bulk of the oil reserves in Iraq are already the property of France and Russia.  </p>
<p>Oh and on the point of Japanese internment in the second world war, how can anyone deny the fact that Japan did have sleeper cell agents in America, when they have since admitted it.  So how stupid was it really to put those related to the enemy in protective custody.  It protected the Japanese from Americans as much as Americans from the Interned Japanese.  Seriously how successful do you thinka  country could be if you let the possible enemy wander around freely while trying to fight them, as was the case with the Japanese &amp;Germans in England and Australia, it doesn&#8217;t make any logical sense, to just cross your fingers and hope that all those in your country with ties to the enemy, will just sit on their hands, and not pick up the phone to let their family and friends back home know if they were going to be attacked, it&#8217;s human nature. And that &#8217;s just the regular citizen, not even the real spies among them.</p>
<p>Actually what happens is you have to put everyone in the country under tighter security, and try and be all politically correct about not singling out the most likely suspects.  You know it used to be common sense that people who declared they were going to take over your country and destroy your political system, through violence, were considered bad, and  called treasonous.  Now they are just expressing their freedom of speech and religion&#8230; When is enough enough?
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