mlah The culture that has evolved here isnt conducive to sissies

May 26, 2004

The Oldest Profession

Filed under: Politics — mlah @ 10:18 pm

prostitution should be legal.

yep, i said it.

let me qualify the statement. prostitution should be legal, but pimping should be illegal.

small difference you ask?

i’ll elaborate.

first off. all y’all that are going to make fun of me, go ahead. i can hear the, ‘what, you need a date that badly?’ comments already. but contrary to your initial responses, i’m not making this statement out of a need for a college girl, a starving artist, or an out of work starlet. i think it will solve some social ills.

lets look at the pluses before we examine the minuses. then we’ll tally the score.

pluses.

1. the girls who are doing the nasty are routinely seeing the majority of their ‘hard earned’ money going to pimps/business managers. bs. i say, if the girl is doing the work, she should keep the cash.

2. police would have a lighter workload since they would not have to pursue this pervasive illegality. this would allow the police to concentrate on other crime. it would also allow working girls a little more latitude when dealing with police.

3. the money currently extorted from working girls by pimps, is used by those pimps as seed money for larger criminal enterprises (my opinion). legalizing prostitution would decrease the number of girls working for pimps, decreasing the amount of money available to pimps to setup drug/gambling and other rackets. how would it decrease the number of girls dependant on pimps you might ask.. simple. the girls would at that point have the option of actually calling the police when some guy beats them (including the pimp). this is an option not currently available to them.

4. desease control. if prostitution was legal, you could actually require a license, with a medical exam. you might think that they would simply not acquire this liscense, but i believe the ‘johns’ would drive this. if prostitution was legal, and some girls have medical exam certificates stating they are desease free, and another doesn’t. i think the guy would choose the former. this would also allow the medical profession to not just stem the spread of sexually transmitted deseases, but they could also track the spread more efficiently, which might lead to better treatment and a better control of epidemics.

5. the prostitutes would have the option of calling the police to stop crime against them. just because they are working girls doesn’t entitle them to a daily beating.

6. taxes. you could actually fairly heavily tax the industry and not come near what some pros are forced to give to their pimps. i don’t think they should be that heavily taxed. but it would generate tax revenue all the same. a lot of working girls would scoff at the notion of paying taxes, but hey, hold out the prospect of being able to call the police when in trouble, and it’ll cost them less than a pimp, and i think they’ll come around.

7. it could help stop the international problem of trafficing in women. we used to chuckle when i was in the navy. EVERY port in every 2 bit country the world over had some russian girls working there. we just rationalized that they had food in in these countries, and hey, hooking is better than starving. only after we found out that the vast majority of those girls were promised legitimate jobs in foreign countries and forced into prostitution did we have to eat our words. i understand phillipinas are commonly forced into the skin trade in the middle east as well.

minuses.

1. it is immoral. nobody wants their daughter / sister / mother / girlfriend / wife to be a pro, but if worse came to worst, i would rather they were on the street instead of in jail. after all, in jail, would they be any different? well, no money maybe.

2. the bible (and other holy books) is against it. don’t get me wrong. i support the institution of marriage. and believe in fidelity. i’m talking about the fact that it exists. has existed. and will exist. i do not approve, but i think it would reduce crime.

3. pimps would be put out of work. so what. i’m having to reach for minuses now.

so, in retrospect, i have to conclude that the pluses outweigh the minuses. prostitution should be legal.

in reality, i don’t think prostitution will be legal anytime soon. i just eye the profession. i know they use public services and generate none of the public revenue to pay for those services. and they do generate a large amount of money. it is estimated here that a single bar owner in japan can take in 85k a month from prostitution. i saw on the local news (dc) a couple of weeks back (my inspiration for this post) that a local ‘korean massage parlor’ can take in more than 10 grand a day. that’s a lot of taxes. that’s a lot of police they could pay. i would like to quit spending on the one, to collect from the other. and we could do away with a major source of further crime. or at least make it more difficult to start those further crimes.

20 Comments »

  1. Not to mention that if you REALLY are pro-choice, and believe a woman has a right to do what she wants with her own body, that not just prostitution but drug use should be legal, yes?

    Interesting post.

    Comment by Big Dan — May 27, 2004 @ 8:08 am

  2. i see your point, but i am not pro choice.

    Comment by mlah — May 27, 2004 @ 8:35 am

  3. Your argument “for” is financially right on, concerning the taxes etc. But I see it as just another step (giant) in the direction of the moral decay and decline of our society. Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible(God) says it is a sin and we should pray for the sinners. I know we do, everyday.The same argument could be used for drug dealers, and what next? Although I am pro-life I agree with big Dan on this subject. savagemod99

    Comment by dad — May 27, 2004 @ 11:33 am

  4. I think that’s how the British laws on prostitution work (warning – link NOT EVEN REMOTELY work-safe!):

    Prostitution itself is technically legal, but several surrounding activities are outlawed which make it hard to work legally. It is illegal to solicit or advertise or run a brothel (= place where more than one girl works). It is also illegal to kerb-crawl. A more detailed analysis of the legal situation is available.

    Comment by Chris at Dangerous Logic — May 27, 2004 @ 5:48 pm

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  6. What a quandary!
    As a woman, i could actually care less what another woman does with herself. I say, you make your own bed… However, on the other hand, men (pimps) use women too much and there would be no guarantee that this would change just because it’s legal, in fact, they would think it would justify what they do to their “charges” and justify the drugs and beatings.
    What a quandary!! Hmmm….

    Comment by CJ — May 27, 2004 @ 9:29 pm

  7. CJ – Pimps aren’t all men. When I was stationed in Korea (while Dave et al got to play in Spain) I noticed that the bar owners were all madames. And yes, these were the immoral dens of vice that everyone got so worked up over last year and which the Pentagon was forced to apologize for (seems I heard something about the military docs providing disease certificates, as Dave mentioned, for the working girls, in an effort to protect the troops). And Dave, I only went to those places for the beer and darts!

    Comment by yup — May 27, 2004 @ 9:53 pm

  8. yeah right, and men go to stripper bars for the ambience…

    Comment by mlah — May 27, 2004 @ 10:32 pm

  9. yup-I stand corrected. I don’t think I had ever been in a Korean bar, let alone, Korea. My experience is from what I’ve seen and heard when I worked in NYC. I think the Madames are more from the Asian world than anywhere else. Anyway, it would be ditto (above) for them too.

    Comment by CJ — May 27, 2004 @ 11:03 pm

  10. Oh, and mlah, I do know a very liberal young woman who is currently unattached, yet she is genious-level IQ and looks like Gwyneth Paltrow. She needs someone to set her on the correct course! 🙂

    Comment by CJ — May 27, 2004 @ 11:04 pm

  11. Prostitution is legal in Germany-we had a “pufhaus” around the corner from our kaserne (base), and it was frequented routinely by several of our soldiers. They are licensed, medically tested, and taxed.

    I have to say, Germany has a lower unplanned pregnancy rate; lower disease rate; and I have to say from personal dating experience, they are some of the most sexually boring people, in spite of the open nudity, and legalized prostitution. Germany is also a highly religious culture-you have to apply to not be taxed for the Catholic church!!!!!! It’s automatic!!!!

    Americans make everything taboo, then wonder why the young generation is going overboard with indulgence.

    Madame Butterfly

    Comment by Madame Butterfly — May 28, 2004 @ 6:55 pm

  12. Silly Americans.

    Comment by Big Dan — May 28, 2004 @ 7:27 pm

  13. legalize it, regulate it, tax it

    Comment by Uptown Girl — May 30, 2004 @ 2:45 pm

  14. would legalization make it cheaper?

    Comment by mark — May 31, 2004 @ 4:42 pm

  15. ever heard of the “bunny ranch”…that is a legalized brothel, and they have a doctor that does medical exams…i saw something about it on HBO i think a few months ago..maybe you could look into this and find out where this place is…they have girls that do everything! 😉

    Comment by Melissa — June 2, 2004 @ 2:52 pm

  16. vegas or reno. prostitution is legal in nevada on a county by county basis. amazing how guys know that off of the top of their head isn’t it?

    Comment by mlah — June 2, 2004 @ 10:19 pm

  17. Thankfully we have the christian conservatives to tell us what we should do with ourselves. Soon they’ll tell me what brand of detergent to use because the others go against God’s will. Following the ten commandments makes no reference between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. W’s must have forgotten the seventh when dealing with his buddy Ley.

    Comment by me — June 4, 2004 @ 3:00 am

  18. Agreed. Let them do what they want.

    When I was in Holland , someone showed my the ‘BLue Light District'(name?). Legal prostitution is not going to make the world more sinful. It already is. There’s going to be prostitution whether it’s legal or not.

    However,Pimps should be hung out to dry by their balls.

    Comment by Peach — June 6, 2004 @ 11:33 pm

  19. It’s legal in most countries around the world. Every European gentleman can visit a whorehouse whether he’s a prime minister or a pheasant. And it’s cheap too….

    Comment by Tyrone — June 1, 2008 @ 1:00 am

  20. You make a few points here but seem to ignore the larger issues. Prostitution in and of itself is not a means to an end, it is a temporary solution to a permanent problem for most of the women engaged in it.

    In countries like the Netherlands and Germany, where it is legal and controlled, it might be called a success from you point of view, but the vast majority of the women working in the Red Light Districts are not from those countries, and I am willing to bet that if you ask them, they’d rather be working in an office job or factory than on their back.

    We do not live in an ideal world – we live in a world where PID, HPV and other diseases make having multiple sexual partners a very real risk for women – so unless you have a cure for those, I am thinking there is a major flaw in your logic.

    Comment by CMBF — October 13, 2009 @ 3:37 pm

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